I played these drums, ONE time. The Las Vegas show, after the Australia and Tokyo tour. DW thought they would be glitzy enuff for Vegas. They sounded great. I will be donating them to Zildjian Cymbals to be put on their drum walk of fame. They will have a good home...forever. They have Gene Krupa's and Buddy Rich's drums as well as Ringo's. I am honored to be near Gene Krupa and ALL the great drummers of the world of Zildjian.